RE: Platonism vs Realism WAS: ROADMAP (well, not yet really...

From: Stathis Papaioannou <stathispapaioannou.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:39:42 +1000

Peter Jones writes (quoting Bruno Marchal):

> > People who believes that inputs (being either absolute-material or
> > relative-platonical) are needed for consciousness should not believe
> > that we can be conscious in a dream, given the evidence that the brain
> > is almost completely cut out from the environment during rem sleep.
>
> The brain didn't evolve to dream.

Clearly the brain *did* evolve to dream, although we don't really understand the
evolutionary advantage of dreaming, or for that matter sleeping. But that is
beside the point: the question is whether interaction with an external environment
is necessary for consciousness, and I think dreaming is one situation which shows
that it is not.

(To be fair, one could argue that dreaming does involve environmental input in that
at the very least there is proprioceptive feedback from the rapid eye movements,
and there is no dreaming during non-REM sleep. However, I think that is just a
technical detail, as it is easy enough to imagine a brain dreaming without this input,
or with the input provided by self-exciting neurons.)

Stathis Papaioannou
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