George Levy wrote:
> Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>>George Levy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Brent Meeker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>That brings us back to Descartes "I think therefore I am"; which Russell
>>>>pointed out was an unsupported inference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>IMHO everything hinges on "I think." "I think" MUST BE THE STARTING
>>>POINT - for any conscious observer THERE IS NO OTHER OBSERVABLE STARTING
>>>POINT!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Are you disputing Russell's point that "I" is a construct and "thinking" is
>>all you have without inference?
>>
>>
>>
> Yes. I am disputing what Russell said: "I think" IS THE ONE AND ONLY
> STARTING POINT for any conscious thought process. It is both an
> observation and an axiom. Developing the concept of "I think" in a
> formal mathematical fashion as Bruno is attempting to do is IMO the
> right way to proceed. I also believe that "I think" leads to a relative
> (or relativistic) TOE - probably a very extreme view.
>
> George
As I understand him, Bruno agrees with Russell that "I" is a construct or
inference. That's why there can be 1st-person indeterminancy.
Brent Meeker
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Received on Sun Aug 13 2006 - 21:32:03 PDT