RE: Are First Person prime?

From: Colin Hales <>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:50:10 +1000

Brent Meeker:
> 1Z wrote:
> >
> > Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >
> >>Le 09-août-06, à 12:46, 1Z a écrit :
> >>
> >>
> >>>Timeless universe, universes where everything that can exist
> >>>does exist, are not well founded empirically.
> >>
> >>So we should understand that you would criticize any notion, sometimes
> >>brought by physicists, of "block-universe".
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I certainly would! It is unable to explain the subjective
> > passage of time. Dismissing the subjective sensation of the passge of
> > time
> > as "merely subjective" or "illusional" is a surreptitious
> > appeal to dualism and therefore un-physicalistic!
> I don't see that problem. In the block universe each subject is modelled
> as
> having different states at different times and hence subjectively
> experiences the passage of time.
> Brent Meeker

Exactly! See my other post. Being of an evolving structure completely
defined by state transitions makes it amenable to the treatment by the
concept of time, but does not reify time in any part of the's
intrinsic to its operation.

Then, to those entities inside, observing and evolving along with the
structure/part of it 'what it is like' qualia of time I don’t think is a
property of the qualia per se, but the rate/depth to which they are
analysed. A high novelty environment means faster/more brain process, time
apparently goes slowly (eg during an accident). In a low novelty environment
the brain analysis rate/depth drops. Time appears to go more quickly.


Colin Hales

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