David Nyman wrote:
>>Third person perception comes about when several observers share the
>>same perception because they share the same environmental contingencies
>>on their existence. In effect these observers share the same "frame of
>>reference." I see many similarities with relativity theory which I have
>>discussed numerous times on this list in the past. Let's be clear: all
>>these observer have a first person perspective, however this first
>>person perspective appears to be the same across observers, and
>>therefore appears to be *independent* of the observers. This perspective
>>can be called *objective* but we must keep in mind that it is the same
>>only because the frame of reference is the same. Thus the concept of
>>objectivity loses its meaning unless we raise the meaning to a higher
>>level and accept that different observers will predictably see different
>>things, just like in relativity theory different observers may
>>predictably make different measurements of the same object.
>>
>>
>
>Again I agree here. In the terminology I've been using, the frame of
>reference would be communicated in terms of the 'shareable knowledge
>base', or inter-personal (third person) discourse. What you are saying
>above seems consistent with Colin Hales' views both on 1-person primacy
>and the nature of 3-person. Any comments on those?
>
>
I am sorry David, I have not been following all threads very closely -
It would take a full time commitment to do so. Perhaps each post,
especially the long ones, should be preceded by an abstract. ;-) Could
you point me in the right direction?
George
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Received on Wed Aug 09 2006 - 14:23:31 PDT