Re: Bruno's argument - Comp

From: John M <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:47:09 -0400

Apologies to the list and to Stathis especially!

I replied to Stathis - and "lost" the text - at least I thought so.
That happens in Yahoo-mail sometimes and so far I could not detect which
'key' did I touch wrong?
So I wrote another one and mailed it all right.

Then in the mail I detected my 'original' and "lost" text, it was snatched
away and mailed.

The two are pretty different.

Redface John
----- Original Message -----
From: "John M" <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Bruno's argument - Comp


>
> Stathis:
> "I know that whatever theory I come up with will almost certainly be
> proved
> wrong given enough
> time, so I won't bother coming up with a theory at all."
> Funny that you of all people come up with such a supposition so different
> from fundamental basic human nature!
> We all hope to be smarter than , And speculate.
> Even those "scientists" you refer to.
> "Evidence"? that is what I scrutinize. It is subject to the level of our
> ongoing epistemic enrichment and without later findings one settles with
> insufficient ones that become soon obsolete.
> I was challenged to propose technical levels 50 years ahead. It is
> impossible. I rather try to compose "what and why" of our present
> technological and theoretical status could we NOT imagine 60 years
> ago...it
> is entertaining.
>
> Man is optimist. Even myself with a cynical pessimism.
>
> John M
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <stathispapaioannou.domain.name.hidden>
> To: "John M" <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:22 AM
> Subject: RE: Bruno's argument - Comp
>
>
>
> John M writes:
>
>> Earlier we lived in a telephone central switchboard, further back in a
>> steam-engine. Not to mention the Turtle.
>> The 'cat' specifies IMO ignorance without prejudice.
>
> Very droll, very true! But what, then, must we do? Scientists come up with
> the
> best theory consistent with the evidence, with a willingness to revise the
> theory
> in the light of new evidence. They might not be quite as willing as they
> ideally
> should be, but that's just human nature, and they all come around to doing
> the
> right thing eventually. It would not be very helpful if we all thought, "I
> know that
> whatever theory I come up with will almost certainly be proved wrong given
> enough
> time, so I won't bother coming up with a theory at all."
>
> Stathis Papaioannou
>
>
>> > I recently read somebody's speculation that the reality we inhabit is
>> > may
>> > be
>> > a quantum computer. Presumably when we observe Schrodinger's cat
>> > simultaneously being killed and not killed, we are observing the
>> > quantum
>> > computer in action.
>> >
>> > Norman Samish
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "John M" <jamikes.domain.name.hidden>
>> > To: <everything-list.domain.name.hidden>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:05 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Bruno's argument - Comp
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> To All:
>> >> I know my questions below are beyond our comprehension, but we read
>> >> (and
>> >> write) so much about this idea that I feel compelled to ask:
>> >>
>> >> is there any idea why there would be 'comp'? our computers require
>> >> juice
>> >> to
>> >> work and if unplugged they represent a very expensive paperweight.
>> >>
>> >> What kind of "computing unit" (universe? multiverse, or some other
>> >> satanic
>> >> 'verse') would run by itself without being supplied by something that
>> >> moves
>> >> it? I hate to ask about its program as well, whether it is an
>> >> "intelligent
>> >> design"?
>> >> Is it a pseudnym for some godlike mystery?
>> >>
>> >> Are we reinventing the religion?
>> >>
>> >> John Mikes
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> >
>
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